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Minfilia ([personal profile] linkpearls) wrote2016-10-09 06:15 pm

Job Quest: Potatoes and Crystals

Discussion for the quest here.
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[personal profile] damn_juicebox 2016-10-09 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
All right, I'll Copy/Paste.

So Ace and I chatted over Plurk (not sure if you guys could see the pings or not), and this is what we propose if the rest of you guys are cool with it too. Rialynn and Ace are going to suggest that the Tarutarus use their funds to move to Esdham. It's protected by a sapphire crystal, and was once a city that appreciated the arts and finer things before their resources turned to military defense. Without Hera, that's not really a problem anymore. The tarutarus and other citizens could do a lot to restore its splendor, not to mention it's a lot warmer down there now that winter is encroaching on the northern continent. Lita's the sort who will argue that their lives are more important than their belongings if they still won't budge, and that if they had the resources to save the city they would.

In the meantime, and this won't be expressed to the diplomats, they're going to search for a diamond crystal they can use to uncrystallize Trano Golsaucia at a later time.
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[personal profile] ninjainviolet 2016-10-11 09:29 pm (UTC)(link)
First... Thank you for understanding about things. I appreciate it.

Now. On to the quest.

Explaining Sheena: She is by no means a Diplomat. She may be the Emissary of Peace on her world, but her way of resolving things is to yell and possibly hit. So, she would more than likely stay off to the side, watching the proceedings. And possibly growling under her breath from time to time. (You've all seen her in action...)

However, she would definitely agree with Lita and argue about their lives being more important, plus--taking a cue from her friend Regal the businessman--she could remind them that people would come from all over to see the new Esdham. Increasing their wealth, of course.

PS: ( I REALLY REALLY LIKE THE SECRET DIAMOND CRYSTAL IDEA.)
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[personal profile] onedrinkwithme 2016-10-11 09:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Hi, I am Minfilia-mun but under a different account for tracking reasons. I also wanted to say thanks for understanding things as well.

It seems that all involved are in agreement about the lives being more important. Minfilia, understanding how messy politics can be and coin might be tempting for some but it does not hold weight when it comes to the people and their safety. She'd probably be able to say it in a way that the potatoes can understand because of experience. While she has access to tank jobs, she's not originally a fighter so she's good with words.

She will also go with Esdham as a good location and it being a good way to expand business. Follow the moogle example man.

Also, if there is a discussion about finding a diamond crystal between the four of them, Minfilia would mention to be cautious. Idealism is great but to be careful.
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[personal profile] damn_juicebox 2016-10-11 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
It sounds like we're all in agreement, then? I don't think I have anything further to add, except maybe trying to sell them on the idea of coming up with fresh new attractions that will make business boom. Someone can post this thread to the quest thing if they want.
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[personal profile] confidentia 2016-10-11 10:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, same! Nothing changes on my part.
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[personal profile] ninjainviolet 2016-10-11 10:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I was wondering though, did we want their offers go pretty high? And come up with a large number?

Because the money would mean a lot to the research going on and help with rebuilding things.
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[personal profile] damn_juicebox 2016-10-11 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
The Heroes don't get squat if they don't save Trano, though, so the price won't matter. They can't really save the city without a sapphire crystal, unless someone wants to convince Sephiroth to cough up the one he's secretly holding onto.
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[personal profile] onedrinkwithme 2016-10-11 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
And again, it wouldn't feel right to even take money if they did save the city, yes?

And I do not know how close anyone is to Sephiroth within the group or even know he's holding onto one so that might be a thing that won't happen. But more importantly is getting folks out before Rocks Fall, Everyone Dies.
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[personal profile] confidentia 2016-10-11 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Even assuming they would know (and he'd probably be close enough to Sephiroth to discuss it, for that matter), Ace is of the opinion that at this point, saving Trano is of lower priority than saving more populous cities like Aqures or Mysidia, and thus, they can't really afford using another Crystal.

As for the evacuation itself, I'd suggest we wait for the mod response and the reaction that goes with it, since there's no telling how the Tarutaru might reply... though it would be nice to have a basic outline.
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[personal profile] ninjainviolet 2016-10-12 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, I know the Heroes don't get anything if they don't save Trano, but we can't make it seem like it went off without a hitch.

The Tarutarus could be the ones dangling the whole "think of the research/think of fixing the city" bait in front of them.

I mean, hell, they could go the full amount before giving in.
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[personal profile] confidentia 2016-10-12 05:04 am (UTC)(link)
... I'm not sure if I follow, though? Yes, they could, but that part doesn't seem relevant unless the Heroes are genuinely interested in getting the money, since it doesn't influence their decision anyhow.
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[personal profile] ninjainviolet 2016-10-12 05:10 am (UTC)(link)
Just something to put in the narrative, to prove that the Heroes didn't want the money and were working for the entire world. Not just for one place.

But don't worry about it.
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[personal profile] confidentia 2016-10-12 05:27 am (UTC)(link)
I believe the decision itself is already a proof enough of that, so we should be good. There's nothing wrong with taking our response further, but in this case, it seems clearer to simply state that they're not interested in the money, regardless of the amount! Otherwise, it's as though we're purposely pushing the potatoes into making higher bids... unless I'm getting the whole concept wrong, in which case feel free to correct me on that.
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[personal profile] ninjainviolet 2016-10-12 05:37 am (UTC)(link)
No. It was basically matching stubbornness with stubbornness, since the task gave a range of monetary amounts the Tarutarus were willing to offer. It wasn't meant as a goading measure, but as proof that the money would be better spent elsewhere.

And as a means to jump to suggest moving to Esdham.

Kind of like when with your friends.

How about I give you $1 to do [this].
No.
Two dollars?
No.
How about three?
No.
Sheesh. Fine. Have it your way.

That sort of scenario. But like I said, don't worry about it. I was just trying to put a little "struggle" into it, that's all.
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[personal profile] damn_juicebox 2016-10-12 05:59 am (UTC)(link)
It'd probably be a good idea (Rialynn would suggest) to appeal to their pride with flattery. It's hard to tell without getting a good gauge of their reactions and personality, but if they seem to respond well to having their egos stroked about how much better they could make Esdham become, either having new attractions that bring hope and fun to the people, or restoring an old gem that had lost its luster, that might be a good angle to pursue.
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[personal profile] ninjainviolet 2016-10-15 06:07 am (UTC)(link)
I wouldn't be surprised that they have egos to be stroked...LOL

So, we'll go with that?

Went for their egos while suggesting they move to Esdham? Especially if they suggest just how much more money they'll make by people going there to see the "new" Esdham.
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[personal profile] onedrinkwithme 2016-10-15 06:08 am (UTC)(link)
I'm good with that.
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[personal profile] confidentia 2016-10-17 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah.
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[personal profile] damn_juicebox 2016-10-17 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
Probably good to post then, if someone wants to slap a link to the job quest thread.